Nevymyslas si tak trochu? Mali tam Briti vobec nejaky bombarder? Francuzi nebombardovali, kedze tam mali lietadlovu lod? Vedenie utoku proti ISIL mala na starosti Iracka vlada, nie USA. To ratas medzi civilistov aj prislusnikov ISIL?
Nevymyslas si tak trochu? Mali tam Briti vobec nejaky bombarder? Francuzi nebombardovali, kedze tam mali lietadlovu lod? Vedenie utoku proti ISIL mala na starosti Iracka vlada, nie USA. To ratas medzi civilistov aj prislusnikov ISIL?
Military Watch Magazin nie je ziadny americky magazin, ale cisto proruSSka stoka, za ktorou je pravdepodobne Iran, a ktoru ruSSki propagandisti vydavaju za nejake doveryhodne medium.
Ako si prisiel na to, co popieram? Rozumies pisanemu textu? Angazovali sa tam USA aj ruSSko, kazdy svojim sposobom. Majdan bol prave reakciou prave na angazovanie ruSSka. Takze ak hladame pricinu a nasledok, tak keby sa ruSSko na Ukrajine nijako neangazovalo, boli by tam teraz stovky tisic mrtvych? Da sa s urcitostou povedat, ze nie.
Zapad to nepoprel asi preto, lebo o Zelenskym podpisanej zmluve tu bluznis iba ty a Zapadu si asi nestal za reakciu.
Ak nerozumies tomu anglickemu textu z TASS, do rustiny si to mozes prelozit aj sam cez Google translator.
Prave to je dolezite vediet, kto koho zabil, to nie su nepodstatne detaily. Nepodstatne su tvoje taraniny, ze Majdan bola jasna akcia USA. Majdan hlavne nemenil smerovanie Ukrajiny, o ktorom rozhodli obcania Ukrajiny v prezidentskych aj parlamentych volbach. Co sa uz neda povedat o akciach ruSSka - korumpovanie vtedajsieho prezidenta UA, vyvolavanie nepokojov a vyzbrojovanie proruSSkych nacionalistov.
Tak to je dost trapna obrana, ked si prichyteny pri klamstve a nemas sa ako z toho vykrutit.
Takze nie je pravda, ze do roku 2013 bolo 0 zabitych, medzi 2014 az 2021 asi 10000 a od 2022 niekolko 100000 umerne poctu pritomnych ruSSkych fasistov na Ukrajine? Nie je ti trapne tu spominat USA? Kolko ludi podla teba priamo zabili USA a kolko ruSSko?
Takze hadam nebudeme zrazu spochybnovat to, co pise TASS. Ale aspon vidno, ze zjavne nerozumies, co to je "draft" a kto viedol vyjednavaci tym. A okrem toho v tom navrhu nebola len podmienka schvalenia parlamentom, ale aj v referende, ktore by sa konalo az po zmiznuti ruSSkych fasistov z Ukrajiny. Takze ak by toto bola zmluva, kto za ruSSku stranu by to podpisal? Ides sa dalej strapnovat?
Do roku 2013 na Ukrajine kvoli nejakym nezhodam medzi Ukrajincami a Rusmi nikto nezomieral. To sa zmenilo vtedy, ked sa do toho zamiesalo ruSSko, ktoremu ten relativne kludny stav nevyhovoval.
Dokonca aj TASS ta usvedcuje z klamstva:
ST. PETERSBURG, June 17. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin showed the initialed draft agreement with Ukraine, which was drawn up in March 2022 in Istanbul, to leaders and representatives of several African countries at their meeting on Saturday.
"I would like to draw your attention to the fact that with [Turkish] President [Tayyip] Erdogan’s assistance, as you know, a string of talks between Russia and Ukraine took place in Turkey so as to work out both the confidence-building measures you mentioned, and to draw up the text of the agreement. We did not discuss with the Ukrainian side that this treaty would be classified, but we have never presented it, nor commented on it. This draft agreement was initialed by the head of the Kiev negotiation team. He put his signature there. Here it is," the Russian president said showing the paper to the African delegation.
Ty si hlavne ako spravny ruSSky fasisicky propagandista najlepsie informovany o tom, co sa nikdy nestalo. Vsak napis este nieco o tej udajnej zmluve co udajne Zelensky podpisal minuly rok v marci.
Hej, ta truba nad tebou vyratuva nejake gramy z Mesiaca, ked Apollo v tej dobe doviezlo 382 kg mesacnej horniny.
Netrep hluposti, skus si o tom nieco nastudovat, o priebehu a dovodoch Ukrajinskeho jadroveho odzbrojenia, o START, o Lisabonskej zmluve. A nakoniec o tom, ze preco Rusko za tie zbrane este aj Ukrajine zaplatilo, ked podla teba boli jeho vlastnictvom.
Zase tu brehy klames, ze "UA sa jadrových zbraní nevzdala. Patrili ZSSR a nástupníckym štátom je RF". Skus si o tom nieco nastudovat, o priebehu a dovodoch Ukrajinskeho jadroveho odzbrojenia, o START, o Lisabonskej zmluve. A nakoniec o tom, ze preco Rusko za tie zbrane este aj Ukrajine zaplatilo, ked podla teba boli jeho vlastnictvom.
Tie tvoje vyzvy na zamyslenie inym vyznievaju dost tragikomicky.
Teda v marci 2022 v Istanbule islo iba o navrh bodov zmluvy a nie o zmluvu, nepodpisal to Zelensky.
Zase tu brehy klame:
ST. PETERSBURG, June 17. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin showed the initialed draft agreement with Ukraine, which was drawn up in March 2022 in Istanbul, to leaders and representatives of several African countries at their meeting on Saturday.
"I would like to draw your attention to the fact that with [Turkish] President [Tayyip] Erdogan’s assistance, as you know, a string of talks between Russia and Ukraine took place in Turkey so as to work out both the confidence-building measures you mentioned, and to draw up the text of the agreement. We did not discuss with the Ukrainian side that this treaty would be classified, but we have never presented it, nor commented on it. This draft agreement was initialed by the head of the Kiev negotiation team. He put his signature there. Here it is," the Russian president said showing the paper to the African delegation.
Nevyhrazaj sa tu ruSSkym sudnictvom. To, ze u tvojich fasistickych kamosoch su take sposoby bezne, tak u nas nastastie nie.
To su co za dristy? Schvalne napis presne za aku cenu nam ZSSR "dodávali plyn, ropu, železnú rudu pre VSŽ". Kolko stal vtedy benzin a kolko litrov z priemernej vyplaty bolo mozne kupit vtedy a dnes? O bytoch a domoch tu neklam, neboli zadarmo.
Maju vari vypisovat tvoje klamstva "ako Zelenskyj podpísal mierovú zmluvu v marci minulého roku v Istanbule"?
Ritter, ako zatrpknuty odsudeny pedofil je velmi vhodny potvrdzovac ruSSkej fasistickej propagandy.
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